stewie griffin
2:27 Sat Jul 15
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Like when we brought Chris TREMLETT in 2010/11?
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Sven Roeder
2:32 Sat Jul 15
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I was thinking of 2013/14 when someone on here told me the giant fast bowlers were going to bounce Australia into oblivion on their own pitches.
I understand in November we are going for Starc, Cummins and Pattinson.
And 18 yard pitches
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Eerie Descent
3:44 Sat Jul 15
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Batted, Gary son.
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Sven Roeder
5:07 Sat Jul 15
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cricinfo:
19.79
Gary Ballance's average in last 13 Tests and 24 inns, with just 2 fifties. In his first 10 Tests, he averaged 67.93 with 4 100s and 5 50s in 17 inns.
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Hammer and Pickle
5:09 Sat Jul 15
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That shot from the beardy fellow!
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Coffee
5:12 Sat Jul 15
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FFS, England...
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Mikey P
5:14 Sat Jul 15
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Collapso!
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Mikey P
6:15 Sat Jul 15
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Amateur hour.
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Hammer and Pickle
6:35 Sat Jul 15
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Come on England!
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Eerie Descent
1:14 Sun Jul 16
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Root as captain is panning out as expected, I really don't get this just pick your best batsman as captain thing, you need to identify someone who is a leader of men, he just isn't. And this review thing is becoming a joke, he just has no idea what to do, looks fucking scared to make a decision, completely clueless.
He should be batting at 3, and England need to identify players in county cricket who are made of the right stuff, not just pick on averages, which is what has happened with Jennings and Balance.
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stewie griffin
1:30 Sun Jul 16
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Don't cry Jibbers
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Eerie Descent
1:43 Sun Jul 16
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I can't stop son, it's grinding my gears too much.
I'm glad you're happy about things currently, though.
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stewie griffin
1:49 Sun Jul 16
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Wouldn't say I'm happy especially, but it's where we are as a team currently. We lost 8 test matches last year so this isn't a massive surprise.
Our batting is fragile, our seam bowling non existent beyond the two old boys, and our best spinner is a batsman. Doesn't add up to a great side.
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Eerie Descent
2:16 Sun Jul 16
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Well, it doesn't really help when you keep picking the same players that have failed, does it? I simply don't buy the assertion that there are no better batsmen in England then Gary Ballance. And what the fuck is Dawson all about? These are not players who are going to take the Aussies on, so why the fuck pick them? Ballance will be atrocious out there, they'll give him a proper going over, but he's Root's pal, so he'll be there 'batting' at 3.
Also, Stokes is not a number 6 batsman, and Jennings is just not up to opening, with Cook's current form we need someone solid there.
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stewie griffin
2:28 Sun Jul 16
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Don't disagree with any of that. But you get WOAKES back fit and in for Wood and that solves plenty of issues. Stokes 6, Ali 7, WOAKES 8, and both batting and bowling look better. Then you can play Mason CRANE as a proper spin option instead of bits and pieces players like Dawson.
Top 5 is more of a challenge I think. Personally I'd pick Tom WESTLEY. Sure people will think it's Essex bias, but the reality us that the lions is there for a reason- and he made a hundred against Australia when they toured, and a hundred against South Africa this summer. Root should be batting 3, and he also needs to sort out his conversion rate. He has 12 hundreds (28 fifties) from 54 games. Steve fucking Smith has 20 from 54 games.
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Coffee
3:00 Sun Jul 16
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Do I remember correctly (or not) that Graeme Smith once declared South Africa's innings allowing England an outside chance of winning? His purpose was to make a game of what remained in the match, but was left with egg on his face when England did manage to reach their target.
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stewie griffin
3:03 Sun Jul 16
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Probably Cronje and his match fixing?
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Sven Roeder
3:05 Sun Jul 16
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Hansie Cronje certainly did
For a leather jacket
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Coffee
3:07 Sun Jul 16
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OK, maybe it was him and not Smith. Was it really in exchange for??
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Eerie Descent
3:22 Sun Jul 16
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Agree about Woakes, I'm a big fan, and to be honest I don't think there's much difference between him and Stokes as batsmen. And I liked the look of Crane in the T20, and he's clearly going to be so many levels above Dawson, so why the fuck not give him a chance in this series to expose him and see if he's good enough for the Ashes? Because Dawson is never going to be.
Also, someone like Dawad Malan should be in before Ballance, he has done it for the Lions, and again in that T20 game he looked like someone who grows when he's playing internationals, they are the type of men you need to give a chance to.
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Sven Roeder
7:45 Sun Jul 16
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Declaration
England need 474 in 2 days and 10 mins
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